Comments on: CNN, the KKK and the Jena 6 http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/cnn-the-kkk-and-the-jena-6/ which ofttimes goes 'snicker snack' Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:50:21 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Racism and the Jena 6 | Democratic Policy and Party Talk http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/cnn-the-kkk-and-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Racism and the Jena 6 | Democratic Policy and Party Talk Sat, 06 Oct 2007 02:23:42 +0000 http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/cnn-the-kkk-and-the-jena-6/#comment-41 [...] readers will recall my posting last month, “CNN, the KKK and the Jena 6” which drew THIS long response in the wee hours last night. Normally, I’d just shine it on, [...] [...] readers will recall my posting last month, “CNN, the KKK and the Jena 6” which drew THIS long response in the wee hours last night. Normally, I’d just shine it on, [...]

]]> By: Racism And The Jena 6 « his vorpal sword http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/cnn-the-kkk-and-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-39 Racism And The Jena 6 « his vorpal sword Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:29:05 +0000 http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/cnn-the-kkk-and-the-jena-6/#comment-39 [...] Jena 6 Jump to Comments Regular readers will recall my posting last month, “CNN, the KKK and the Jena 6” which drew THIS long response in the wee hours last night. Normally, I’d just shine it on, [...] [...] Jena 6 Jump to Comments Regular readers will recall my posting last month, “CNN, the KKK and the Jena 6” which drew THIS long response in the wee hours last night. Normally, I’d just shine it on, [...]

]]> By: pamelapod http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/cnn-the-kkk-and-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-31 pamelapod Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:43:35 +0000 http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/cnn-the-kkk-and-the-jena-6/#comment-31 I still think that TV news reports are often of little value because of quick, less-than-thoughtful editing to fill time slots precisely. And I am certainly not defending shoddy editing. I heard there was a one-hour special on Jena on CNN later. If the KKK was not mentioned in this special, you could have a point about GOP control. But I thought that allegedly bragging about KKK connections made these guys seem like the sad losers most current KKK members are. Maybe CNN wanted people to get the idea that from the report you watched that A LOT of whites in the area did stuff like this just because of the area's history. Actual KKK boosterism on the part of the perps could make people think that only a few kooks engage in this type of activity. Might make some in their audience less interested in future "in-depth" reports. It is also possible that someone decided, wisely or not, that quoting these idiots' advertisement for the KKK on air could provide them with material for a recruiting video. Their outrageous action was clearly done with publicity in mind. Their bragging about the KKK would, of course, repel most people and make them roll their eyes at the stupidity of the perps. But such "bravery" might be attractive to some who feel that they are victims of official favoritism toward blacks. I still think that TV news reports are often of little value because of quick, less-than-thoughtful editing to fill time slots precisely. And I am certainly not defending shoddy editing. I heard there was a one-hour special on Jena on CNN later. If the KKK was not mentioned in this special, you could have a point about GOP control.

But I thought that allegedly bragging about KKK connections made these guys seem like the sad losers most current KKK members are. Maybe CNN wanted people to get the idea that from the report you watched that A LOT of whites in the area did stuff like this just because of the area’s history. Actual KKK boosterism on the part of the perps could make people think that only a few kooks engage in this type of activity. Might make some in their audience less interested in future “in-depth” reports.

It is also possible that someone decided, wisely or not, that quoting these idiots’ advertisement for the KKK on air could provide them with material for a recruiting video. Their outrageous action was clearly done with publicity in mind. Their bragging about the KKK would, of course, repel most people and make them roll their eyes at the stupidity of the perps. But such “bravery” might be attractive to some who feel that they are victims of official favoritism toward blacks.

]]> By: hart00 http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/cnn-the-kkk-and-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-30 hart00 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:39:17 +0000 http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/cnn-the-kkk-and-the-jena-6/#comment-30 My problem was that their WRITTEN version of the story had that 'bullet point' at the TOP of the story. Stories MUST be written first so that the blow-dried "anchors" can read them from the teleprompter. So, some producer at CNN decided to 86 that portion of the story. Why? Who knows? But it's hard to argue that the information was cut out unintentionally or to "save time." No: it was intentionally repressed. The argument that other stuff gets the same shoddy treatment is the old fallacy that 'two wrongs make a right.' No. They don't. Perhaps I went ballistic, because I happened to be READING the CNN website when I HEARD the broadcast in the other room. Good grief. My problem was that their WRITTEN version of the story had that ‘bullet point’ at the TOP of the story. Stories MUST be written first so that the blow-dried “anchors” can read them from the teleprompter.

So, some producer at CNN decided to 86 that portion of the story. Why? Who knows?

But it’s hard to argue that the information was cut out unintentionally or to “save time.” No: it was intentionally repressed.

The argument that other stuff gets the same shoddy treatment is the old fallacy that ‘two wrongs make a right.’ No. They don’t. Perhaps I went ballistic, because I happened to be READING the CNN website when I HEARD the broadcast in the other room. Good grief.

]]> By: pamelapod http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/cnn-the-kkk-and-the-jena-6/comment-page-1/#comment-29 pamelapod Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:53:00 +0000 http://hisvorpal.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/cnn-the-kkk-and-the-jena-6/#comment-29 Do I understand correctly that you went "ballistic" because one on-air report on CNN did not mention the Klan ties of those idiots (in the truck with the nooses) which the CNN website detailed? Have you listened recently to a radio broadcast of a TV news report? I heard one the other day, concerning a story I had personal knowledge of, and it was astonishingly non-substantive. It was edited so heavily from the interview it was based on that it was hard to even follow. There was absolutely no political content, so I can't blame the GOP. I do not expect news editors on TV news to give me a meaningful story, especially in recent years. I believe that they are targeting a core audience with a very short attention span, many of whom would turn the channel if the picture of that truck with the nooses stayed on screen for more than a few seconds. They have to keep those images changing to compete with MTV and video games. My theory on the CNN TV report is that they had to shave some seconds off their Jena story to squeeze in the latest about Britney Spears (or someone like her) in time for the commercial break. TV news is not where I go for great analysis. If you don't expect it, you will be pleasantly surprised on the rare occasions when it happens. Wouldn't most people just naturally assume that those idiots had some sort of ties to the Klan? Of course the Klan still operates. My husband worked at a prison, and a couple of his co-workers who bragged about their ties to the Klan (especially if they want to impress members of the Aryan Brotherhood inmate gang) came from the Northwest, where you live. But they only bragged when they thought it was "safe" to do so: no supervisors, only one "independent" witness. The Klan has been marginalized by everyone in the mainstream, including the GOP. And isn't the ACLU famous for defending the free speech and association rights of the Klan (while trying to squelch those of the Boy Scouts)? Does the GOP control the ACLU, too? Do I understand correctly that you went “ballistic” because one on-air report on CNN did not mention the Klan ties of those idiots (in the truck with the nooses) which the CNN website detailed? Have you listened recently to a radio broadcast of a TV news report? I heard one the other day, concerning a story I had personal knowledge of, and it was astonishingly non-substantive. It was edited so heavily from the interview it was based on that it was hard to even follow. There was absolutely no political content, so I can’t blame the GOP.

I do not expect news editors on TV news to give me a meaningful story, especially in recent years. I believe that they are targeting a core audience with a very short attention span, many of whom would turn the channel if the picture of that truck with the nooses stayed on screen for more than a few seconds. They have to keep those images changing to compete with MTV and video games.

My theory on the CNN TV report is that they had to shave some seconds off their Jena story to squeeze in the latest about Britney Spears (or someone like her) in time for the commercial break. TV news is not where I go for great analysis. If you don’t expect it, you will be pleasantly surprised on the rare occasions when it happens.

Wouldn’t most people just naturally assume that those idiots had some sort of ties to the Klan? Of course the Klan still operates. My husband worked at a prison, and a couple of his co-workers who bragged about their ties to the Klan (especially if they want to impress members of the Aryan Brotherhood inmate gang) came from the Northwest, where you live. But they only bragged when they thought it was “safe” to do so: no supervisors, only one “independent” witness. The Klan has been marginalized by everyone in the mainstream, including the GOP.

And isn’t the ACLU famous for defending the free speech and association rights of the Klan (while trying to squelch those of the Boy Scouts)? Does the GOP control the ACLU, too?

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